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  • dalpets
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    #4740 |

    I have an Ospid v 1.4. It lights up but I don’t have a clue how to set it up for my reflow oven, despite considerable research that hasn’t revealed how a brand new user should approach the hardware setup etc.
    I have tried to load firmware onto it but the upload doesn’t complete & I get the error message, as below.
    I have set the Arduino IDE up for the Duemilanove ATMega 328P-PU usb board (I’m uncertain if that board is part of the Ospid hardware, or if I need to get one to make the Ospid work). The IDE ticks the COM 1 port. I’ve ordered the board, just in case that’s what I am missing.

    I would appreciate your help for
    (1) what extra hardware I need for Ospid to work with my reflow oven, and specifically if I need a thermocouple & a recommendation, please.
    (2) What resource/s are available to help me wire things up & tune the setup.

    ERROR CODE;
    Arduino: 1.6.9 Hourly Build 2016/04/15 10:34 (Windows XP), Board: “Arduino Duemilanove or Diecimila, ATmega328”
    Sketch uses 21,296 bytes (69%) of program storage space. Maximum is 30,720 bytes.
    Global variables use 1,297 bytes (63%) of dynamic memory, leaving 751 bytes for local variables. Maximum is 2,048 bytes.
    avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding
    avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 1 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x60
    avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding
    avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 2 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x60
    avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding
    avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 3 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x60

    etc…………………

    Thank You.

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    dalpets
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    I have now managed to find resources on most of the implementations, but still cannot upload the firmware, as indicated in my previous post. Some help is really needed on this. Thank you.

    rocketscream
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    Hi dalpets,

    We are still using Arduino v1.0.6 IDE until now.
    Saw your verbose output on using the Arduino 1.6.9 hourly build.
    I wouldn’t suggest to use that (yes, myself also uses that but for support for new Cortex chip) as it is still in development.

    Is the COM port showing up on your computer’s device manager (if you are using Windows)?
    If yes, is the automatic reset jumper installed on the osPID main board as shown here (see the note on auto resetting)?

    (1) what extra hardware I need for Ospid to work with my reflow oven, and specifically if I need a thermocouple & a recommendation, please.
    (2) What resource/s are available to help me wire things up & tune the setup.

    You will need a type-K thermocouple with a temperature rating higher than 400 Degree Celsius (or more is okay) and preferably with a fiber glass jacket to withstand the heat. Select a suitable SSR to drive the oven with the correct rating and SSR must be able to accept 5V drive voltage.

    Please go through the documentation section regarding the running a reflow profile. The frontend software comes with 2 example of reflow profile (RoHS and leaded) to begin with.

    dalpets
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    Thank you for reply.

    I have now installed IDE 1.06 but still have no success in installing the firmware. The same message ‘not in sync’.

    I presume the note regarding ‘reset’ is intended to mean ‘remove the jumper’ I have now done that. Is this the correct procedure?. Should the jumper be replaced after the install of the firmware?

    When I installed 1.06 on my Windows XP I could see that the driver was being installed but the XP hardware wizard still wants to install it, but is unable to do so. Device manager shows Com port 1 as OK. Is that the correct port? The FT232X USB UART is separately asterisked. Should it instead appear next to Com 1?

    At this stage I have not connected an SSR & thermocouple? Is that OK for installing the firmware & front end?

    I have had to install Arduino as ADMIN but I have been unable to change the permissions to use it as USER???

    Thanks again

    rocketscream
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    I presume the note regarding ‘reset’ is intended to mean ‘remove the jumper’ I have now done that. Is this the correct procedure?. Should the jumper be replaced after the install of the firmware?

    It should be installed it order for the firmware update process to work. Without it, the processor will not enter the firmware upgrade mode.

    When I installed 1.06 on my Windows XP I could see that the driver was being installed but the XP hardware wizard still wants to install it, but is unable to do so. Device manager shows Com port 1 as OK. Is that the correct port? The FT232X USB UART is separately asterisked. Should it instead appear next to Com 1?

    • If you were to unplug the osPID unit, does the COM1 port still showing?
    • Is this a laptop/desktop with a built-in serial port?

    At this stage I have not connected an SSR & thermocouple? Is that OK for installing the firmware & front end?

    You don’t have to hook them up first. We solve this firmware upgrade issue first.

    I have had to install Arduino as ADMIN but I have been unable to change the permissions to use it as USER???

    I believe you can right click the arduino.exe and “run as administrator”?

    dalpets
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    I have reinstalled the reset jumper on the front mainboard.

    My Win XP computer is a desktop with an RS232, 9 pin serial port. COM 1 remains in device manager when the osPID is diconnected. The osPID is shown as ‘other’ & is asterisked.

    Isn’t the osPID supposed to show the already installed firmware. It doesn’t.

    In hindsight,and for my purposes, it would have been helpful if a block diagram of the hardware and their connections existed on your site::)

    Thanks again
    Brenton

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    rocketscream
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    My Win XP computer is a desktop with an RS232, 9 pin serial port. COM 1 remains in device manager when the osPID is diconnected. The osPID is shown as ‘other’ & is asterisked.

    As what I have suspected earlier, your osPID USB COM is currently not installed properly. Did you grab the latest drivers from the FTDI website?

    Your Arduino IDE is trying to use the serial COM1 port to upload the firmware which is not connected to anything.

    When you plug in the USB port into your laptop, does Windows prompt you to install the driver?
    Have you try to plug the osPID kit into another PC?

    The hardware revision of your osPID kit is probably the earliest ones we have sold which dated few years back, did you now only try to use it?

    dalpets
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    Back then I was only able to make one contact with your support. Multiple further support attempts were ignored, so I left it in indefinite abeyance.

    Same problem with COM1 on another computer but managed to convert COM1 to COM3 using the technique at the following site. COM3 is now in device manager & is now available in Arduino 1.06, but FT 232X USB UART is still shown asterisked as ‘other’ in device manager.

    http://www.istime.com/istdnn/portals/0/documents/proc%20and%20instru/computers/make%20com%20ports%20available.pdf

    Interestingly, my Uno is seen by COM3 on the problem computer.

    Tried uploading firmware 1.7 from Github but there were numerous code errors, mainly of a non- declaration nature. I am unable to post the errors, since for some reason the transfer to the clipboard would not happen.

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    rocketscream
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    Same problem with COM1 on another computer but managed to convert COM1 to COM3 using the technique at the following site. COM3 is now in device manager & is now available in Arduino 1.06, but FT 232X USB UART is still shown asterisked as ‘other’ in device manager.

    Interestingly, my Uno is seen by COM3 on the problem computer.

    It doesn’t matter what COM port number the Windows is assigning it. We need to get your driver install. Please post a screenshot of your device manager (use service like Postimage.org). The asterisked is basically telling you the driver is not installed properly or not install at all. On older Windows like XP, once the driver install prompt is not run by the user, it will go quiet after that which makes an impression you have install the driver. From here, I can only say your driver is not being installed. Unlike newer Windows like W10 that does driver installation automatically, user need to install drivers on their own by downloading them from appropriate source.

    Tried uploading firmware 1.7 from Github but there were numerous code errors, mainly of a non- declaration nature. I am unable to post the errors, since for some reason the transfer to the clipboard would not happen.

    Please post a screen shot of your error somewhere. It has to do with your installation of libraries I believe.

    dalpets
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    How do I add the Snagit image of device manager to a forum post?

    Thanks

    rocketscream
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    How do I add the Snagit image of device manager to a forum post?

    (use service like Postimage.org)

    dalpets
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    Image of device manager, as requested.

    http://s20.postimg.org/qfxjswti5/FT232_X_USB.jpg

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    rocketscream
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    Hi dalpets,

    Okay, that looks like the driver is not installed.
    Please install them from the FTDI website.

    dalpets
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    http://s20.postimg.org/tu9kn16ql/devicemngr.png
    http://postimage.org/image/9jpab6mop/?_ga=1.157248057.320844955.1464263814

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    dalpets
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    Please see my previous post with images of device manager, now containing Com5 as a result of installing CDM 20824.setup.exe for Win XP from FTD & error trying to upload osPID Firware.ino

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